Comments on: 6 Secrets of Saving Money That Your Printer May Not Tell You! http://redhenassociation.com/chickenscratchings/2009/12/6-secrets-of-saving-money-that-your-printer-may-not-tell-you/ Self-Publishing is Self-Reliance Thu, 07 Oct 2010 18:18:21 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: eva http://redhenassociation.com/chickenscratchings/2009/12/6-secrets-of-saving-money-that-your-printer-may-not-tell-you/comment-page-1/#comment-635 eva Sat, 05 Jun 2010 15:17:46 +0000 http://redhenassociation.com/chickenscratchings/?p=422#comment-635 I was Surfing for something different, but got your page 6 Secrets of Saving Money That Your Printer May Not Tell You! | Chicken Scratchings and found it Interesting.Nice Post on printer help...Thanks. I was Surfing for something different, but got your page 6 Secrets of Saving Money That Your Printer May Not Tell You! | Chicken Scratchings and found it Interesting.Nice Post on printer help…Thanks.

]]> By: Laurence Shoyer http://redhenassociation.com/chickenscratchings/2009/12/6-secrets-of-saving-money-that-your-printer-may-not-tell-you/comment-page-1/#comment-122 Laurence Shoyer Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:08:50 +0000 http://redhenassociation.com/chickenscratchings/?p=422#comment-122 I am not really sure if best practices have emerged around things like that, but I am sure that your great job is clearly identified. I was wondering if you offer any subscription to your RSS feeds as I would be very interested and can?t find any link to subscribe here. I am not really sure if best practices have emerged around things like that, but I am sure that your great job is clearly identified. I was wondering if you offer any subscription to your RSS feeds as I would be very interested and can?t find any link to subscribe here.

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]]> By: Ed Collins http://redhenassociation.com/chickenscratchings/2009/12/6-secrets-of-saving-money-that-your-printer-may-not-tell-you/comment-page-1/#comment-64 Ed Collins Fri, 18 Dec 2009 23:35:13 +0000 http://redhenassociation.com/chickenscratchings/?p=422#comment-64 I am not sure I would call these secrets that printers do not want you to know. Some of us are very up front obviously and some of you have had experiences that differ. 1. Customers are the greatest asset for every type of company. No surprise there. 2. Most printers I know will be honest enough to tell their customers when something does not fit them. I think a regular print buyer knows this anyway and a lot of places still ask for equipment lists. 3. Technology will never replace skilled workers. We just bought the latest and greatest Heidelberg press of this kind and it still requires a knowledgeable pressmen. 4.Buying paper to supply to your printer is like buying oil for your car mechanic; you may or may not save money depending on the type of estimating system a printer uses. The truth here as an example is that we will not pass along our discounts entirely for a short run job, but we buy paper in volume so our non-discounted paper prices are probably still better than your occasional buy. 5. I agree with this one but why it would be a printer secret is beyond me. First, if I can get you (the buyer) to reduce your size to fit our typical product runs then why wouldn't I do that? It makes our press runs more efficient and therefore we make better margins. 6. I can only say, no surprise here or for any other print buyer. A simple request for multiple qty's will show you a difference in per/m costs. When my customers (new or old)ask for a quote on 5,000 of something, I will give them a quote showing additional qtys. Hope this does not sound to grouchy, but I felt a need to set some of these points straight. If any of you are feeling this deceived by your printer then call me. Really, these points are no big secret. I am not sure I would call these secrets that printers do not want you to know. Some of us are very up front obviously and some of you have had experiences that differ.
1. Customers are the greatest asset for every type of company. No surprise there.
2. Most printers I know will be honest enough to tell their customers when something does not fit them. I think a regular print buyer knows this anyway and a lot of places still ask for equipment lists.
3. Technology will never replace skilled workers. We just bought the latest and greatest Heidelberg press of this kind and it still requires a knowledgeable pressmen.
4.Buying paper to supply to your printer is like buying oil for your car mechanic; you may or may not save money depending on the type of estimating system a printer uses. The truth here as an example is that we will not pass along our discounts entirely for a short run job, but we buy paper in volume so our non-discounted paper prices are probably still better than your occasional buy.
5. I agree with this one but why it would be a printer secret is beyond me. First, if I can get you (the buyer) to reduce your size to fit our typical product runs then why wouldn’t I do that? It makes our press runs more efficient and therefore we make better margins.
6. I can only say, no surprise here or for any other print buyer. A simple request for multiple qty’s will show you a difference in per/m costs. When my customers (new or old)ask for a quote on 5,000 of something, I will give them a quote showing additional qtys.

Hope this does not sound to grouchy, but I felt a need to set some of these points straight. If any of you are feeling this deceived by your printer then call me. Really, these points are no big secret.

]]> By: B Dauria http://redhenassociation.com/chickenscratchings/2009/12/6-secrets-of-saving-money-that-your-printer-may-not-tell-you/comment-page-1/#comment-61 B Dauria Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:22:59 +0000 http://redhenassociation.com/chickenscratchings/?p=422#comment-61 Good advice above. Two additions I'd make - 1. It's helpful to know if the printer has a standard stock paper, they use often. If they purchase it in quantity, doing your job on their standard paper may save you lots. Often they even have a few styles and colors "in stock." 2. As a former printer, I hated when customers supplied their own stock! If not stored properly, it would curl from moisture and jam in the press. Or it might already have been "bumped" in shipping and have a dented corner. And if we were only supplied with the EXACT amount of paper, we couldn't even do a run-up to see how it would look, risking a few sheets. It was hard to explain that we'd need extra sheets. The customer thinks you're cheating them. 3. I often charged extra for one's own paper - at least on the quote. If it ran smoothly, we'd reduce the cost at the end. No one ever faulted us for that! But more often than not, we had trouble with customer supplied stock. NOTE: Can I put a link to your site on my web site? I figure people looking for book publishing help should have all options available. QUESTION: As a print broker, what is your commission on printing jobs? Good advice above. Two additions I’d make -
1. It’s helpful to know if the printer has a standard stock paper, they use often. If they purchase it in quantity, doing your job on their standard paper may save you lots. Often they even have a few styles and colors “in stock.”
2. As a former printer, I hated when customers supplied their own stock! If not stored properly, it would curl from moisture and jam in the press. Or it might already have been “bumped” in shipping and have a dented corner. And if we were only supplied with the EXACT amount of paper, we couldn’t even do a run-up to see how it would look, risking a few sheets. It was hard to explain that we’d need extra sheets. The customer thinks you’re cheating them.
3. I often charged extra for one’s own paper – at least on the quote. If it ran smoothly, we’d reduce the cost at the end. No one ever faulted us for that! But more often than not, we had trouble with customer supplied stock.
NOTE: Can I put a link to your site on my web site? I figure people looking for book publishing help should have all options available.
QUESTION: As a print broker, what is your commission on printing jobs?

]]> By: Gordon http://redhenassociation.com/chickenscratchings/2009/12/6-secrets-of-saving-money-that-your-printer-may-not-tell-you/comment-page-1/#comment-59 Gordon Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:20:25 +0000 http://redhenassociation.com/chickenscratchings/?p=422#comment-59 Good info. On point #4 there should be another warning. If there is a paper related problem that results in a press problem (e.g. delamination, slitter marks, mottle, bubbles, etc.) then the buyer is on the hook for the associated costs (downtime, reworks, schedule delays etc.) if they supplied the paper. Good info.
On point #4 there should be another warning. If there is a paper related problem that results in a press problem (e.g. delamination, slitter marks, mottle, bubbles, etc.) then the buyer is on the hook for the associated costs (downtime, reworks, schedule delays etc.) if they supplied the paper.

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